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2-Day Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) Intensive Training Course


Faculty:
John E. Lothes
Duration:
Two Full Days
Format:
Audio and Video
Product Code:
LWC051990
Brochure Code:
PWZ81382
Media Type:
Live Webcast - Also available: Digital Seminar | Live Webinar

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Description

Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) is an empirically validated approach for working with mental health, chemical dependency, and complex co-morbidity. Designed to empower clients to establish mindfulness, distress tolerance, emotional regulation, and interpersonal effectiveness, DBT assists clinicians in treating clients with emotional problems, suicidal, self-harm, and self-sabotaging urges and behaviors, and challenging interpersonal styles.

Attend this 2-day intensive training course and receive a detailed understanding and foundation of the skills of Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) as applied to clients with mental health and chemical dependency issues. Going beyond symptom management, these skills are designed to improve functioning to build satisfying lives.

This live webcast explores DBT’s theoretical basis, specific DBT interventions, and how to teach skills in individual and group settings. Familiarity with these skills and techniques along with experiential exercises will enhance your clinical skills and professional development.

Guided by the latest research and policy in evidence-based practices, this course teaches the clinical process and content of DBT from theory to practice. Going beyond prescriptive applications, this course shows you how to use essentials such as validation, dialectical strategies, communication styles, and the best ways of changing behaviors in order to effectively balance acceptance and change with your clients. Complete with education on user-friendly diary cards and chain analysis protocols, you will leave this webcast with increased DBT competency as well as many new tools including client worksheets to bring to your clinical practice.

John Lothes, MA, LPA, LCAS-A, is not affiliated or associated with Marsha M. Linehan, PhD, ABPP, or her organizations.


Certification in Dialectical Behavior Therapy

This course counts towards the educational requirement when applying for Certification in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (through Evergreen Certification Institute (EVGCI) – click here to learn more about this certification! 

Please note: The Evergreen Certification Institute has an application fee for the CDBT certification; that fee is not included with your digital seminar purchase.

Credits


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NOTE: Tuition includes one free CE Certificate (participant will be able to print the certificate of completion after completing and passing the on-line post-test evaluation). 

Continuing Education Information: Listed below are the continuing education credit(s) currently available for this live interactive webcast. This webcast is a broadcast of a live event. You will be able to type questions to the speaker. The speaker will see the questions and address them during the presentation as time allows. Please note, your state licensing board dictates whether web based activities are an acceptable form of continuing education. Please refer to your state rules and regulations. If your profession is not listed, please contact your licensing board to determine your continuing education requirements and check for reciprocal approval. For other credit inquiries not specified below, please contact cepesi@pesi.com or 800-844-8260 before the event.

Materials that are included in this course may include interventions and modalities that are beyond the authorized practice of your profession.  As a licensed professional, you are responsible for reviewing the scope of practice, including activities that are defined in law as beyond the boundaries of practice in accordance with and in compliance with your profession's standards.

The planning committee and staff who controlled the content of this activity have no relevant financial relationships to disclose. For speaker disclosures, please see speaker bios.

CE Information is based on 100% attendance.


Addiction Counselors

NAADAC

This course has been approved by PESI, Inc., as a NAADAC Approved Education Provider, for 12.5 CE in the Counseling Services skill group. NAADAC Provider #77553. PESI, Inc. is responsible for all aspects of their programming. Full attendance is required; no partial credit will be awarded for partial attendance. 


California Alcoholism & Drug Abuse Counselors (CCAPP-EI)

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider by the CCAPP-EI, Provider #: OS-03-036-1021. This activity meets the qualifications for 12.5 CEH's (continuing education hours).


California Alcoholism & Drug Abuse Counselors (CADTP)

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider by the CADTP, Provider #: 201. This Category C activity meets the qualifications for 12.5 CEU's (continuing education hours).


Connecticut Addiction Counselors

Provider #120924. This course has been approved as a CCB approved training and has been awarded 12.5 hours by the Connecticut Certification Board.


Counselors

This educational offering consists of 12.5 clock hour(s) of continuing education instruction. Credit requirements and approvals vary per state board regulations. Please save the course outline, the certificate of completion you receive from this offering and contact your state board or organization to determine specific filing requirements. 


California Counselors

The California Board of Behavioral Sciences accepts CE programs that are approved by other approval agencies, including several that approve PESI and its programs.  A full list of approval agencies accepted by the BBS can be found at www.bbs.ca.gov/licensees/cont_ed.html under “Where to find CE Courses.”  This intermediate level level activity consists of 12.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


Florida Counselors

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Florida Board of Clinical Social Work, Marriage and Family Therapy and Mental Health Counseling. Provider Number 50-399. This course qualifies for 12.5 continuing education credits.


Georgia Counselors

12.5 of Core hours, applied for through the Licensed Professional Counselors Association of Georgia, LPCA.


Montana Counselors

The Montana Board of Behavioral Health no longer pre-approves any courses or sponsors. Each licensee is responsible for taking courses which contribute to their competence and directly relate to their scope of practice as defined in board statute (MAR 24-219-32). Licensees must keep CE documentation for three years in case of an audit. This intermediate level activity consists of 12.5 clock hours of instruction.


New York Counselors

PESI, Inc. is recognized by the New York State Education Department's (NYSED) State Board for Mental Health Practitioners as an approved provider of continuing education for Licensed Mental Health Counselors. #MHC-0033. This activity will qualify for 15.0 contact hours. Full attendance is required; no partial credits will be offered for partial attendance


Ohio Counselors

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the State of Ohio Counselor, Social Worker and Marriage & Family Therapist Board. Provider approval #:RCST071001. Full attendance at this course meets the qualifications for 12.5 clock hours of continuing education credit. 


Pennsylvania Counselors

The Pennsylvania State Board of Social Workers, Marriage and Family Therapists and Professional Counselors accepts many national association CE approvals, several of which PESI offers. For a full list, please see your State Board regulations at https://www.dos.pa.gov/ProfessionalLicensing/BoardsCommissions/. This intermediate level activity consists of 12.5 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


South Carolina Counselors

This program has been approved for 12.5 continuing education hours by the South Carolina Board of Examiners for Licensure of Professional Counselors, Marriage and Family Therapists, and Psycho-Educational Specialists. Provider #4540.


Texas Counselors

This activity consists of 12.5 clock hours of continuing education instruction. Texas State Board of Examiners of Professional Counselors no longer approves programs or providers. PESI activities meet the continuing education requirements as listed in Title 22 Texas Administrative Code, Chapter 681, Subchapter J, Section 681.142 Acceptable Continuing Education. Please retain the certificate of completion that you receive and use as proof of completion when required.


California Licensed Educational Psychologists

The California Board of Behavioral Sciences accepts CE programs that are approved by other approval agencies, including several that approve PESI and its programs.  A full list of approval agencies accepted by the BBS can be found at www.bbs.ca.gov/licensees/cont_ed.html under “Where to find CE Courses.”  This intermediate level activity consists of 12.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


Marriage & Family Therapists

This activity consists of 760 minutes of continuing education instruction. Credit requirements and approvals vary per state board regulations. Please save the activity advertisement, the certificate of completion you receive from the activity and contact your state board or organization to determine specific filing requirements. 


California Marriage & Family Therapists

The California Board of Behavioral Sciences accepts CE programs that are approved by other approval agencies, including several that approve PESI and its programs.  A full list of approval agencies accepted by the BBS can be found at www.bbs.ca.gov/licensees/cont_ed.html under “Where to find CE Courses.”  This intermediate level activity consists of 12.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


Florida Marriage & Family Therapists

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Florida Board of Clinical Social Work, Marriage and Family Therapy and Mental Health Counseling. Provider Number 50-399. This course qualifies for 12.5 continuing education credits.


Illinois Marriage & Family Therapists

PESI has been approved as a provider of continuing education by the State of Illinois, Department of Professional Regulation. Provider #:168-000156. Full attendance at this activity qualifies for 12.5 credits. 


Montana Marriage & Family Therapists

The Montana Board of Behavioral Health no longer pre-approves any courses or sponsors. Each licensee is responsible for taking courses which contribute to their competence and directly relate to their scope of practice as defined in board statute (MAR 24-219-32). Licensees must keep CE documentation for three years in case of an audit. This intermediate level activity consists of 12.5 clock hours of instruction.


New York Marriage & Family Therapists

PESI, Inc. is recognized by the New York State Education Department's (NYSED) State Board for Mental Health Practitioners as an approved provider of continuing education for Licensed Marriage and Family Therapists. #MFT-0024. This activity will qualify for 15.0 contact hours. Full attendance is required; no partial credits will be offered for partial attendance


Ohio Marriage & Family Therapists

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the State of Ohio Counselor, Social Worker and Marriage & Family Therapist Board. Provider approval #:RCST071001. Full attendance at this course meets the qualifications for 12.5 clock hours of continuing education credit. 


Pennsylvania Marriage & Family Therapists

The Pennsylvania State Board of Social Workers, Marriage and Family Therapists and Professional Counselors accepts many national association CE approvals, several of which PESI offers. For a full list, please see your State Board regulations at https://www.dos.pa.gov/ProfessionalLicensing/BoardsCommissions/. This intermediate level activity consists of 12.5 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


South Carolina Marriage & Family Therapists

This program has been approved for 12.5 continuing education hours by the South Carolina Board of Examiners for Licensure of Professional Counselors, Marriage and Family Therapists, and Psycho-Educational Specialists. Provider #4540.


Texas Marriage & Family Therapists

This activity consists of 12.5 clock hours of continuing education instruction. Texas State Board of Examiners of Marriage and Family Therapists no longer approves programs or providers. PESI activities meet the continuing education requirements as listed in Title 22 of the Texas Administrative Code, Chapter 801, Subchapter K, Section 801.264 Types of Acceptable Continuing Education. Please retain the certificate of completion that you receive and use as proof of completion when required.


Nurses, Nurse Practitioners, and Clinical Nurse Specialists

PESI, Inc. is accredited as a provider of nursing continuing professional development by the American Nurses Credentialing Center’s Commission on Accreditation.

Nurses in full attendance will earn 12.6 contact hours.


California Nurses

PESI, Inc. is a provider approved by the California Board of Registered Nursing, Provider Number 17118 for 12.5 contact hours. Full attendance is required. No partial contact hours will be issued for partial attendance. 


Florida Nurses

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Florida Board of Nursing, Provider # FBN2858. This course qualifies for 12.5 contact hours. 

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Iowa Nurses

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider by the Iowa Board of Nursing. Provider #: 346. Full attendance at this activity qualifies for 12.6 contact hours. Full attendance in the activity is required; no partial contact hours will be issued for partial attendance. These contact hours are used for your license renewal. Please email cepesi@pesi.com with your license number, include the webcast title, speaker name and date. PESI must have this number on file in order for your hours to be valid for the webcast.


Occupational Therapists & Occupational Therapy Assistants

AOTA

PESI, Inc. is an AOTA Approved Provider of continuing education. Provider #: 3322. Full attendance at this course qualifies for 12.5 contact hours or 1.25 CEUs in the Category of Domain of OT and Occupational Therapy Process. Partial credit will be issued for partial attendance. The assignment of AOTA CEUs does not imply endorsement of specific course content, products, or clinical procedures by AOTA. Course Level: Intermediate.


Arizona Occupational Therapists & Occupational Therapy Assistants

CE credit is available. This course consists of 12.5 continuing education clock hours for Arizona OTs and OTAs. The Arizona Board of Occupational Therapy Examiners (R4-43-203) confirms acceptance of continuing education programs relevant to occupational therapy that are approved by the American Occupational Therapy Association (AOTA).


Florida Occupational Therapists & Occupational Therapy Assistants

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Florida Board of Occupational Therapy. Provider Number #50-399. This course qualifies for 12.5 continuing education credits.

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Canadian Psychologists

PESI, Inc. is approved by the Canadian Psychological Association to offer continuing education for psychologists. PESI, Inc. maintains responsibility for the program. This program is approved for 12.5 continuing education hours. Full credit statement at: www.pesi.com/cpa-statement


Florida Psychologists

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Florida Board of Psychology. Provider Number #50-399. This course qualifies for 12.6 continuing education credits.


Illinois Psychologists

PESI, Inc is an approved provider with the State of Illinois, Department of Professional Regulation. License #: 268.000102. Full attendance at this course qualifies for 12.5 contact hours.


Indiana Psychologists

PESI, Inc is an approved provider with the Indiana Board of Psychology. Certificate #: 98000998A - Category I. PESI maintains full responsibility for this program and its contents. Full attendance at this course qualifies for 12.5 contact hours.


Kentucky Psychologists

PESI, Inc. is approved by the Kentucky Board of Examiners of Psychology to offer continuing education for psychologists. PESI maintains responsibility for this program and its content. This activity will qualify for 12.5 contact hours.


Ohio Psychologists

PESI, Inc. is approved by the Ohio Psychological Association, Provider #263896894, to sponsor continuing education for psychologists. PESI, Inc. maintains responsibility for this program and its content. PESI is offering this activity for 12.5 Standard hours of continuing education credit. 


Pennsylvania Psychologists

PESI, Inc. is approved by the Pennsylvania State Board of Psychology to offer continuing education for psychologists. Provider #PSY000211. PESI maintains responsibility for the program(s). This program qualifies for 12.5 continuing education hours.


Psychologists & Psychiatrists

Psychiatrists: PESI, Inc. is accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education to provide continuing medical education for physicians. PESI, Inc. designates this live activity for a maximum of 12.5 AMA PRA Category 1 Credit(s)™. Psychiatrists should only claim credit commensurate with the extent of their participation in the activity.

 

Psychologists: The following state psychologist boards recognize activities sponsored by PESI, Inc. as an approved ACCME provider: Alaska, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Wisconsin. This activity consists of 12.5 clock hours of continuing education instruction. You are required to successfully complete and submit a post-test prior to receiving a certificate of completion. Certificates of attendance will be issued for you to submit to your state licensing board to recognize for continuing education credit. Full attendance is required; no partial credits will be offered for partial attendance.


Social Workers

PESI, Inc., #1062, is approved to offer social work continuing education by the Association of Social Work Boards (ASWB) Approved Continuing Education (ACE) program. Organizations, not individual courses, are approved as ACE providers. State and provincial regulatory boards have the final authority to determine whether an individual course may be accepted for continuing education credit. PESI, Inc. maintains responsibility for this course. ACE provider approval period: January 27, 2020 - January 27, 2023. Social Workers completing this course receive 12.5 Clinical Practice continuing education credits. Course Level: Intermediate. Full attendance is required; no partial credits will be offered for partial attendance. A certificate of attendance will be awarded at the end of the program to social workers who complete the program evaluation.

 

Canadian Social Workers: Canadian provinces may accept activities approved by the ASWB for ongoing professional development.


California Social Workers

The California Board of Behavioral Sciences accepts CE programs that are approved by other approval agencies, including several that approve PESI and its programs.  A full list of approval agencies accepted by the BBS can be found at www.bbs.ca.gov/licensees/cont_ed.html under “Where to find CE Courses.” This intermediate level activity consists of 12.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


Colorado Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Colorado Chapter of the National Association of Social Workers. Provider #1413. This course has been approved for 12.6 continuing education hours. 

COLORADO PARTICIPANTS ONLY: To be reported to the Colorado Chapter of the NASW, after completing and passing the online post-test/evaluation, please contact cepesi@pesi.com and provide the full title of the webcast, speaker name, date of live broadcast, your name and your license number in the email.


Florida Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Florida Board of Clinical Social Work, Marriage and Family Therapy and Mental Health Counseling. Provider Number 50-399. This course qualifies for 12.5 continuing education credits.


Illinois Social Workers

PESI, Inc is an approved provider with the State of Illinois, Department of Professional Regulation. License #: 159-000154. Full attendance at this course qualifies for 12.5 contact hours.


Kansas Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Kansas Behavioral Sciences Regulatory Board. Provider #14-006. This course has been approved for 12.5 continuing education hours.


Minnesota Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the State of Minnesota, Board of Social Work. Provider #: CEP-140. This course has been approved for 12.5 continuing education hours. This certificate has been issued upon successful completion of a post-test.


Montana Social Workers

The Montana Board of Behavioral Health no longer pre-approves any courses or sponsors. Each licensee is responsible for taking courses which contribute to their competence and directly relate to their scope of practice as defined in board statute (MAR 24-219-32). Licensees must keep CE documentation for three years in case of an audit. This intermediate level activity consists of 12.5 clock hours of instruction.


New York Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is recognized by the New York State Education Department's (NYSED) State Board for Social Work as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed social workers #SW-0008. This activity will qualify for 15.0 contact hours. Full attendance is required; no partial credits will be offered for partial attendance. 


Ohio Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the State of Ohio Counselor, Social Worker and Marriage & Family Therapist Board. Provider approval #:RCST071001. Full attendance at this course meets the qualifications for 12.5 clock hours of continuing education credit. 


Pennsylvania Social Workers The Pennsylvania State Board of Social Workers, Marriage and Family Therapists and Professional Counselors accepts many national association CE approvals, several of which PESI offers. For a full list, please see your State Board regulations at https://www.dos.pa.gov/ProfessionalLicensing/BoardsCommissions. This intermediate level activity consists of 12.5 clock hours of continuing education instruction.
Other Professions

This activity qualifies for 760 continuing education minutes as required by many national, state and local licensing boards and professional organizations. Save your activity advertisement and certificate of completion, and contact your own board or organization for specific requirements. 



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John E. Lothes's Profile

John E. Lothes Related seminars and products: 1

M.A., LPA, LC AS-A


John Lothes, M.A., LPA, LCAS-A, is a licensed psychological associate in Wilmington, North Carolina. As a clinician, John was hired by Delta Behavioral Health in 2008 to help start up and run their Dialectical Behavioral Therapy based partial hospital program and a DBT-based substance abuse intensive outpatient program (SAIOP). Since 2008, John has provided supervision to interns that have been trained in the partial hospital program and the SAIOP, teaching them how to apply DBT skills to their therapy. John also incorporates DBT into his individual practice working with a number of disorders. John was introduced to DBT during his internship at the New Hanover County Behavioral Health Hospital, an inpatient facility where he eventually led DBT groups in both their inpatient partial hospital program and substance abuse program. While on internship, in August of 2004, John spent a week training on DBT with Dr. Linehan at the New England Education Institute in Cape Cod, MA.

John is a part-time faculty member at University of North Carolina Wilmington in the Department of Psychology and the Department of Health and Applied Human Sciences. He has published research on mindfulness and the cultivation of mindfulness in individuals. He continues to research mindfulness and is conducting research on DBT and the reduction of perceived suffering in partial hospital patients. John is also an Ed.D. candidate at the University of North Carolina Wilmington.​

 

Speaker Disclosure:

Financial: John Lothes II has an employment relationship with Delta Behavioral Health. He receives a speaking honorarium from PESI, Inc.

Non-financial: John Lothes II has no relevant non-financial relationship to disclose.


Additional Info

Program Information

CD/DVD

Click here to purchase the DVD or CD recording from our product store. CE hours and approvals on products may differ from live CE approvals.


Additional Resources

To order the book, The Expanded DBT Skills Training Manual, 2nd Edition, please visit our product store.

To order the item, The DBT Deck for Clients and Therapists, please visit our product store.

To order the book, Dialectical Behavior Therapy, Vol II, 2nd Edition, please visit our product store.


Access Period for Live Webcast

For live CE credit, you must watch the live webcast in its entirety at its scheduled time and complete the CE quiz and evaluation within one week. You will have access for 90 days after the program for review.


Webcast Schedule

Please note: Each day there will be a lunch and two 15-minute breaks; one in the morning and one in the afternoon. Lunch and break times will be announced by the speaker and at their discretion. A more detailed schedule is available upon request.


Objectives

  1. Explain the underlying theory of Dialectics and Dialectic Behavior Therapy.
  2. Integrate DBT skills for individual and group therapy treatment into practice.
  3. Teach DBT skills in the areas of Mindfulness, Distress Tolerance, Emotional Regulation and Interpersonal Effectiveness to clients.
  4. Utilize specific DBT skills for the treatment of a range of mental health symptoms, chemical dependency and complex co-morbidities.
  5. Describe DBT tools and resources used to effectively change behavior.
  6. Articulate a variety of strategies for teaching DBT skills to clients.
  7. Demonstrate the use of crisis survival strategies to enhance distress tolerance.
  8. Discriminate the DBT model from cognitive-behavioral, client-centered, and other treatment modalities.
  9. Practice a multi-layered approach to validation of clients’ thoughts and feelings.
  10. Apply DBT diary cards and chain (change) analysis techniques to address specific clinical issues in practice.
  11. Summarize how to effectively operate consultative groups and treatment teams.
  12. Assess and manage self-injurious and suicidal behaviors with clear protocols and safety plans.
  13. Discuss the limitations and risks of DBT and areas of ongoing or future research regarding DBT effectiveness.

Outline

History & Philosophy of DBT
  • Dialectics explained
  • Core philosophies in practice
  • Skills training techniques
  • Limitations of the research and potential risks
Mindfulness Skills
  • Grounded in the present while being connected to past & future
  • Using core skills to achieve “Wise Mind”
  • Learn classic and innovative mindfulness skills
  • Mindfulness exercises
Distress Tolerance Skills
  • Building frustration tolerance
  • Utilizing crisis survival strategies and plans
  • Learn classic and innovative Distress Tolerance skills
  • Distress Tolerance exercises
Emotional Regulation Skills
  • Understanding emotions and reducing vulnerability
  • Incorporating self-care, opposite action and building positive experience
  • Learn classic and innovative emotional regulation skills
  • Emotional regulation exercises
Interpersonal Effectiveness Skills
  • Balance in Relationships
  • Objective, relationship and self-respect effectiveness
  • Learn classic and innovative interpersonal effectiveness skills
  • Interpersonal effectiveness exercises
DBT in Practice
  • Understanding how therapy works: The Contextual Model
  • Evidence-based practice
  • Maximizing therapeutic factors, DBT-style
  • Essential elements and functions of DBT revisited
Structure Therapy
  • Structure as a therapeutic factor
  • Structuring the therapy environment
  • Identifying treatment targets:
    • Suicidality, self-injurious behavior (SIB), Therapy-interfering behavior (TIB), and other targets
Validation
  • Levels of validation
  • Validation as an informal exposure technique
Best Methods of Changing Behaviors
  • Self-monitoring with the diary card
  • Behavioral contingencies
  • DBT-style cognitive interventions
  • Behavior Chain (Change) Analysis
Communication Styles: Reciprocal and Irreverent Consultation Group
  • Increase your motivation
  • Develop effective responses
  • Qualities of effective treatment teams
Next Steps: Develop Your Proficiency in DBT

Target Audience

  • Counselors
  • Psychologists
  • Psychotherapists
  • Social Workers
  • Marriage and Family Therapists
  • Addiction Counselors
  • Case Managers
  • Nurses
  • Psychiatrists
  • Occupational Therapists
  • Occupational Therapy Assistants
  • Other Mental Health Professionals

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Comments

Paula E

"Great class. Lots of information."

Kevin N

"Awesome Job. Great information. "

Erin T

"John Lothes is an excellent teacher & his true passion for DBT & his clients shine through - he is genuine and solid. As women, we were pleasantly surprised that this man delivered these materials in such a way that we were even more open and able to learn. Compassionate and strict at the same time. We learned about the way John is & how he is. Great person :)"

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