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Digital Seminar

Disrupting Rumination: Changing the Cognitions that Underlie Anxiety and Depression


Speaker:
Margaret Wehrenberg, PsyD
Duration:
3 Hours 52 Minutes
Format:
Audio and Video
Copyright:
Mar 23, 2018
Product Code:
NOS095935
Media Type:
Digital Seminar - Also available: DVD



Description

Overactive brain circuitry can trap clients in cycles of rumination that can keep them anxious and depressed. Letting go of ruminating worries, or banishing persistent thoughts, like I’m not good enough or I’m worthless, isn’t easy for clients and when ruminations don’t shift, therapists can begin to feel stuck themselves.

Watch Margaret Wehrenberg and she will examine why clients lock into depressive thought patterns and why they feel they need to hold on to worry. You will learn practical interventions to use in-session for eliminating these patterns and replacing them with attitudes of calm and competency.

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NOTE: Tuition includes one free CE Certificate (participant will be able to print the certificate of completion after passing the online post-test (80% passing score) and completing the evaluation). Instructional methods will include PowerPoint, didactic lecture, and others.

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Materials that are included in this course may include interventions and modalities that are beyond the authorized practice of your profession.  As a licensed professional, you are responsible for reviewing the scope of practice, including activities that are defined in law as beyond the boundaries of practice in accordance with and in compliance with your profession's standards.  

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Kentucky Counselors

CE credit is available. This self-study course consists of 4.75 continuing education credit hours for Kentucky Counselors. The Continuing Education Requirements for the Kentucky Board of Licensed Professional Counselors (201 KAR 36:030 Section 2) state continuing education programs from providers sponsored or approved by a state counseling licensure board shall be approved without further review by the board. PESI, Inc. is approved by the South Carolina Board of Examiners for Licensure of Professional Counselors, Marriage and Family Therapists, and Psycho-Educational Specialists. Provider #4540. PESI maintains responsibility for this program and its contents.


Missouri Counselors

CE credit is available. This self-study course consists of 4.0 continuing education clock hours for Missouri Counselors. The Missouri Committee for Professional Counselors accepts continuing education programs relevant to counseling that are provided by organizations recognized by national social worker associations. PESI, Inc. is recognized by a national social worker association. Please see social work approvals for this program.


Montana Counselors

The Montana Board of Behavioral Health no longer pre-approves any courses or sponsors. Each licensee is responsible for taking courses which contribute to their competence and directly relate to their scope of practice as defined in board statute (MAR 24-219-32). Licensees must keep CE documentation for three years in case of an audit. This intermediate level self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of instruction.


Nevada Counselors

PESI, Inc. is an approved CEU provider with the State of Nevada Board of Examiners for Marriage and Family Therapists and Clinical Professional Counselors. This self-study activity qualifies for 4.0 contact hours. Approved Provider # NVCEP2006.


New York Counselors

PESI, Inc. is recognized by the New York State Education Department's (NYSED) State Board for Mental Health Practitioners as an approved provider of continuing education for Licensed Mental Health Counselors. #MHC-0033. This self-study activity will qualify for 4.75 contact hours. Full attendance is required; no partial credits will be offered for partial attendance. 


Ohio Counselors

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the State of Ohio Counselor, Social Worker and Marriage & Family Therapist Board. Provider approval #: RCST071001. Full attendance at this course meets the qualifications for 4.0 clock hours of general continuing education credit. Tracking number: 20-701612


Pennsylvania Counselors

The Pennsylvania State Board of Social Workers, Marriage and Family Therapists and Professional Counselors accepts many national association CE approvals, several of which PESI offers. For a full list, please see your State Board regulations at https://www.dos.pa.gov/ProfessionalLicensing/BoardsCommissions/. This intermediate level, self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


South Carolina Counselors

This self-study program has been approved for 4.0 continuing education hours by the South Carolina Board of Examiners for Licensure of Professional Counselors, Marriage and Family Therapists, and Psycho-Educational Specialists. Provider #4540.


Texas Counselors

This self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction. Texas State Board of Examiners of Professional Counselors no longer approves programs or providers. PESI activities meet the continuing education requirements as listed in Title 22 Texas Administrative Code, Chapter 681, Subchapter J, Section 681.142 Acceptable Continuing Education. Please retain the certificate of completion that you receive and use as proof of completion when required.


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Course Level: Intermediate Format: Recorded asynchronous distance. Full attendance is required; no partial credits will be offered for partial attendance.

 

Canadian Social Workers: Canadian provinces may accept activities approved by the ASWB for ongoing professional development.


California Social Workers

The California Board of Behavioral Sciences accepts CE programs that are approved by other approval agencies, including several that approve PESI and its programs.  A full list of approval agencies accepted by the BBS can be found at www.bbs.ca.gov/licensees/cont_ed.html under “Where to find CE Courses.” This intermediate level, self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


Colorado Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Colorado Chapter of the National Association of Social Workers. Provider #1413. This self-study course has been approved for 4.0 continuing education hours. 

 

COLORADO PARTICIPANTS ONLY: If you did not answer YES to be reported to the Colorado Chapter of the NASW on the evaluation, please contact cepesi@pesi.com and provide the full title of the webcast, speaker name, date of live broadcast, your name and your license number in the email.

 


Florida Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Florida Board of Clinical Social Work, Marriage and Family Therapy and Mental Health Counseling. Provider Number 50-399. This self-study course qualifies for 4.0 continuing education credits. 


Illinois Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the State of Illinois, Department of Financial and Professional Regulation, Division of Professional Regulation. License #: 159-000154. Successful completion of this self-study activity qualifies for 4.0 contact hours.


Kansas Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Kansas Behavioral Sciences Regulatory Board. Provider #14-006. This self-study course has been approved for 4.0 continuing education hours.


Minnesota Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the State of Minnesota, Board of Social Work. Provider #: CEP-140. This self-study package has been approved for 4.0 continuing education hours. This certificate has been issued upon successful completion of a post-test.


Montana Social Workers

The Montana Board of Behavioral Health no longer pre-approves any courses or sponsors. Each licensee is responsible for taking courses which contribute to their competence and directly relate to their scope of practice as defined in board statute (MAR 24-219-32). Licensees must keep CE documentation for three years in case of an audit. This intermediate level self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of instruction.


New York Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is recognized by the New York State Education Department's (NYSED) State Board for Social Work as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed social workers #SW-0008. This self-study activity will qualify for 4.75 contact hours. Full attendance is required; no partial credits will be offered for partial attendance. 


Ohio Social Workers

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the State of Ohio Counselor, Social Worker and Marriage & Family Therapist Board. Provider approval #: RCST071001. Full attendance at this course meets the qualifications for 4.0 clock hours of general continuing education credit. Tracking number: 20-701612


Pennsylvania Social Workers

The Pennsylvania State Board of Social Workers, Marriage and Family Therapists and Professional Counselors accepts many national association CE approvals, several of which PESI offers. For a full list, please see your State Board regulations at https://www.dos.pa.gov/ProfessionalLicensing/BoardsCommissions/. This intermediate level, self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


California Psychologists

CE credit is available. This self-study course consists of 4.0 continuing education credit hours for California Psychologists. The California Department of Consumer Affairs Board of Psychology recognizes and accepts for continuing education credit courses that are specifically applicable and pertinent to the practice of psychology and by entities approved by the ACCME (Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education). This enduring material is certified for a maximum of 4.0 AMA PRA Category 1 Credits™ by PESI as an accredited ACCME provider authorized to award credit by the AMA. PESI, Inc. is accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education to provide continuing medical education for physicians.


Canadian Psychologists

PESI, Inc. is approved by the Canadian Psychological Association to offer continuing education for psychologists. PESI, Inc. maintains responsibility for the program. This program is approved for 4.0 self-study continuing education hours. Full credit statement at: www.pesi.com/cpa-statement


Florida Psychologists

PESI, Inc., is an approved provider with the Florida Board of Psychology.Provider Number #50-399.This product qualifies for 4.0 self-study continuing education credits.


Illinois Psychologists

PESI, Inc is an approved provider with the State of Illinois, Department of Professional Regulation. License #: 268.000102. Full attendance at this self-study course qualifies for 4.0 contact hours.


Kentucky Psychologists

PESI, Inc. is approved by the Kentucky Board of Examiners of Psychology to offer continuing education for psychologists. PESI maintains responsibility for this program and its content. This self-study activity will qualify for 4.0 contact hours.


New York Psychologists

PESI, Inc. is recognized by the New York State Education Department's (NYSED) State Board for Psychology as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed psychologists #PSY-0014. This self-study activity will qualify for 4.75 contact hours. Full attendance is required; no partial credits will be offered for partial attendance.


North Dakota Psychologists

CE credit is available. This course consists of 4.0 continuing education clock hours for North Dakota Psychologists. The North Dakota State Board of Psychologist Examiners, pursuant to 66-03-01-03, confirms acceptance of continuing education programs for content related to practice authorized in North Dakota (century code 43-32) for programs approved by certain ce associations. When printing your certificate, please include any national social work approvals.


Ohio Psychologists

PESI, Inc. is approved by the Ohio Psychological Association, Provider #263896894, to sponsor continuing education for psychologists. PESI, Inc. maintains responsibility for this program and its content. PESI is offering this self-study activity for 4.0 Standard hours of continuing education credit.


Pennsylvania Psychologists

PESI, Inc. is approved by the Pennsylvania State Board of Psychology to offer continuing education for psychologists. PESI maintains responsibility for the program(s). This self-study program qualifies for 4.0 continuing education hours.


Psychologists & Physicians

Physicians: PESI, Inc. is accredited by the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education to provide continuing medical education for physicians. PESI, Inc. designates this enduring material for a maximum of 4.0 AMA PRA Category 1 Credit(s)™. This activity was originally recorded on 03/23/2018. It was last reviewed on 05/02/2022 and is valid until 05/01/2025.  Physicians should only claim credit commensurate with the extent of their participation in the activity. You are required to successfully complete and submit a post-test prior to receiving a certificate of completion.


Psychologists: The following state psychologist boards recognize activities sponsored by PESI, Inc. as an approved ACCME provider: Alaska, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Wisconsin. This activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction. You are required to successfully complete and submit a post-test prior to receiving a certificate of completion.


Marriage & Family Therapists

This self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction. Credit requirements and approvals vary per state board regulations. Please save this course outline, the certificate of completion you receive from this self-study activity and contact your state board or organization to determine specific filing requirements. 


California Marriage & Family Therapists

The California Board of Behavioral Sciences accepts CE programs that are approved by other approval agencies, including several that approve PESI and its programs.  A full list of approval agencies accepted by the BBS can be found at www.bbs.ca.gov/licensees/cont_ed.html under “Where to find CE Courses.” This intermediate level, self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


Florida Marriage & Family Therapists

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Florida Board of Clinical Social Work, Marriage and Family Therapy and Mental Health Counseling. Provider Number 50-399. This self-study course qualifies for 4.0 continuing education credits.


Illinois Marriage & Family Therapists

PESI, Inc. has been approved as a provider of continuing education by the State of Illinois, Department of Professional Regulation. Provider #:168-000156. Full attendance at this self-study activity qualifies for 4.0 credits.


Montana Marriage & Family Therapists

The Montana Board of Behavioral Health no longer pre-approves any courses or sponsors. Each licensee is responsible for taking courses which contribute to their competence and directly relate to their scope of practice as defined in board statute (MAR 24-219-32). Licensees must keep CE documentation for three years in case of an audit. This intermediate level self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of instruction.


Nevada Marriage & Family Therapists

PESI, Inc. is an approved CEU provider with the State of Nevada Board of Examiners for Marriage and Family Therapists and Clinical Professional Counselors. This self-study activity qualifies for 4.0 contact hours. Approved Provider # NVCEP2006.


New York Marriage & Family Therapists

PESI, Inc. is recognized by the New York State Education Department's (NYSED) State Board for Mental Health Practitioners as an approved provider of continuing education for Licensed Marriage and Family Therapists. #MFT-0024. This self-study activity will qualify for 4.75 contact hours. Full attendance is required; no partial credits will be offered for partial attendance. 


Ohio Marriage & Family Therapists

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the State of Ohio Counselor, Social Worker and Marriage & Family Therapist Board. Provider approval #: RCST071001. Full attendance at this course meets the qualifications for 4.0 clock hours of general continuing education credit. Tracking number: 20-701612


Pennsylvania Marriage & Family Therapists

The Pennsylvania State Board of Social Workers, Marriage and Family Therapists and Professional Counselors accepts many national association CE approvals, several of which PESI offers. For a full list, please see your State Board regulations at https://www.dos.pa.gov/ProfessionalLicensing/BoardsCommissions. This intermediate level, self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


South Carolina Marriage & Family Therapists

This self-study program has been approved for 4.0 continuing education hours by the South Carolina Board of Examiners for Licensure of Professional Counselors, Marriage and Family Therapists, and Psycho-Educational Specialists. Provider #4540.


Texas Marriage & Family Therapists

This self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction. Texas State Board of Examiners of Marriage and Family Therapists no longer approves programs or providers. PESI activities meet the continuing education requirements as listed in Title 22 of the Texas Administrative Code, Chapter 801, Subchapter K, Section 801.264 Types of Acceptable Continuing Education. Please retain the certificate of completion that you receive and use as proof of completion when required.


California Alcoholism & Drug Abuse Counselors

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California Alcoholism & Drug Abuse Counselors (CADTP)

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Connecticut Addiction Counselors

Provider #120924. This course has been approved as a CCB approved training and has been awarded 4.0 hours by the Connecticut Certification Board.


Addiction Counselors

NAADAC

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Ohio Chemical Dependency Professionals

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider with the Ohio Chemical Dependency Professionals Board. Provider Number 50-399. This self-study course qualifies for a total of 4.0 ceus in the area(s) of C2 - 4.0 hrs; P5 - 4.0 hrs.


Oklahoma Alcohol & Drug Counselors

PESI, Inc. is an Oklahoma Board of Licensed Alcohol and Drug Counselors approved provider #20240032. This self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


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California Nurses

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Florida Nurses

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PESI, Inc. is an approved provider by the Florida Board of  Nursing. Provider #: FBN2858. These materials qualify for 4.0 self-study contact hours.


Iowa Nurses

PESI, Inc. is an approved provider by the Iowa Board of Nursing. Provider #: 346. Nurses successfully completing these self-study materials will earn 4.0 self-study contact hours. Please email cepesi@pesi.com with your license number, include the title, speaker name and date. PESI must have this number on file in order for your hours to be valid.


California Licensed Educational Psychologists

The California Board of Behavioral Sciences accepts CE programs that are approved by other approval agencies, including several that approve PESI and its programs.  A full list of approval agencies accepted by the BBS can be found at www.bbs.ca.gov/licensees/cont_ed.html under “Where to find CE Courses.” This intermediate level, self-study activity consists of 4.0 clock hours of continuing education instruction.


South Carolina Psycho-Educational Specialists

This self-study program has been approved for 4.0 continuing education hours by the South Carolina Board of Examiners for Licensure of Professional Counselors, Marriage and Family Therapists, and Psycho-Educational Specialists. Provider #4540.


Other Professionals

This self-study activity qualifies for 4.0 continuing education clock hours as required by many national, state and local licensing boards and professional organizations. Save your activity advertisement and certificate of completion, and contact your own board or organization for specific requirements.



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Speaker

Margaret Wehrenberg, PsyD's Profile

Margaret Wehrenberg, PsyD Related seminars and products


Margaret Wehrenberg, PsyD, a licensed clinical psychologist, is the author of nine books on the treatment of anxiety and depression, including her most recent e-book, Pandemic Anxiety: Fear, Stress, and Loss in Traumatic Times (January, 2021), bestselling book, The 10 Best-Ever Anxiety Management Techniques (W.W. Norton, 2018), and You Can Handle It: 10 Steps to Shift Stress from Problem to Possibility (PESI, 2017). She has also written a book for the general public, The 10 Best Anxiety Busters.

An expert on the treatment of anxiety and depression, she also has extensive training and expertise in the neurobiology of psychological disorders. In addition to clinical work, she coaches business professionals on managing anxiety and has contributed articles for the Psychotherapy Networker magazine. She has produced Relaxation for Tension and Worry, audio soundtracks for breathing, muscle relaxation and imagery to use with anxious clients. Margaret blogs on depression for Psychology Today. Noted for humor, pragmatic treatment approaches, and her interactive teaching style, Dr. Wehrenberg is a sought-after speaker for conferences and trainings, consistently getting the highest ratings for her dynamic presentation and high-quality content. She is one of PESI’s most highly rated speakers and her evaluation from the most seasoned professionals often rank her training “as among the best I have ever attended.”

Speaker Disclosures:
Financial: Dr. Margaret Wehrenberg maintains a private practice. She receives royalties as a published author. She is an international presenter and receives compensation. Dr. Wehrenberg receives a speaking honorarium, book royalties, and recording royalties from Psychotherapy Networker and PESI, Inc. She has no relevant financial relationships with ineligible organizations.
Non-financial: Dr. Margaret Wehrenberg is a member of the Anxiety Disorder Association of America.


Additional Info

Access for Self-Study (Non-Interactive)

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Objectives

  1. Articulate methods to help clients identify perfectionism in thought and behavior and explore treatment interventions to decrease symptoms of anxiety.
  2. Implement strategies for stress management to reduce symptoms of anxiety in clients, including lifestyle changes, cognitive interventions and time management tools.
  3. Evaluate the negative impact of rumination on the brain structure and function to inform the clinician’s choice of treatment interventions.
  4. Ascertain the underlying neurological processes that impact depression symptoms in clients.

Outline

Rumination as The Link Between Anxiety and Depression
  • Brief look at brain structure/function contributions
  • The purpose of worry: cognitive mis-steps
  • Explore the impact of guilt and interventions for guilt
Manage Worry
  • Contain your worry in time
  • Invite the worry
  • Identify and alter “magical worry”
The Impact of Stress and 4 Competencies to Prevent Stress Damage on Health, Anxiety and Depression
  • Eliminate the Stressor
  • Manage time and environment
  • Manage Attitude
  • Practice Rest and Relaxation
Perfectionism and the Too Much Activity (TMA) person
  • Perfectionism in thought and behavior and interrupt its negative effects
  • When procrastination is perfectionism in disguise
A look at Depression - Raising Energy and Altering Cognitions
  • Altering the neural networks that keep rumination in place
“Born to be blue” - Spotting and altering the impact of endogenous depression
  • Change the network on purpose - “Start where you already are”
  • "Charge the batteries” to raise energy
Situational Stressors
  • Setting boundaries and utilizing help
  • Mobilizing energy to respond
Interrupt helplessness
  • Utilize mentors or lifelines
  • Focus on strengths
Positive Impacts of Early Life Adversity
  • Prepare to stay connected
  • Changing Explanatory style
  • Gratitude assignments

Target Audience

Psychologists, Addiction Counselors, Counselors, Social Workers, Marriage & Family Therapists, Nurses, and other Behavioral Health Professionals

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Comments

Amy R

"Dr. Wehrenberg presented so gracefully with personality, humor, and such knowledge. I truly enjoyed. listening & learning from her. Thank you so much Dr!!! I would love to listen to any other workshops, lectures, videos she has! She presented research as well as case studies with her own clients. A perfect mix. "

Suzanne F

"Margaret is an excellent lecturer."

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"Excellent course!"

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"Excellent presenter!!! Engaging and knows her s=ubject!!!!"

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"The presenter was energetic, informative & I enjoyed the format."

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"Excellent additional training in neuropathology"

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